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Truth Or Consequences, New Mexico
Artesian Bath House and RV Park


There are up to a dozen hot mineral bath establishments in Truth Or Consequences, formerly Hot Springs, New Mexico; some still call it that. One of them, Sierra Grande on Macadoo Street looks like it used to resemble the Taj Mahal; it's been rebuilt and nude soaking is the norm there. Of the others, we can't say one wouldn't want to visit several of them and we can't say which ones one might enjoy, except a couple we visited ourselves. They range from well used, to junque yard dog, to bad vibe city, to recycle depots to.... But, as we always say, DO NOT take our word for it. Go find out yourself. At 4,300 feet above sea level, Truth Or Consequences has more RV parks per BLOCK of any place we've ever seen, so you might like it there; great Mexican restaurants are also in long supply.

We THOUGHT there would be a nice old legend about how the town came by such a name; guess again. The only program we remember Ralph Edwards from is TV's "This Is Your Life", but before that, he had a radio show called "Truth Or Consequences." The story goes that he made an on-the-air challenge to any town in the country that would change it's name to the show's name. As now, the hot spring business was on rough times then and some in town thought (correctly) that the `fame' and free publicity realized from accepting Ralph Edwards' challenge would be good for the town. It was. Today the town, also known as "T or C, New Mexico", has a park named after Ralph and they celebrate Ralph Edwards Day yearly, complete with a parade in which Ralph marches. Or so the story goes.

We weren't bitten by any junque yard dogs and the bad vibes didn't bother us too much because we were determined to check out each place in T or C, even if we did end up in hot water. At the Geronimo Museum on Main Street, there's a small masonry pavilion with a little hot spring in it; on the West side of the pavilion, there's a town map showing the location of most of the springs, and when we say in town, we mean just that; for instance, one is located between a barber shop and a fuel station. The town was built over and around the springs which, similar to Hot Springs, Arkansas, can no longer be seen because they all have buildings over them. Geronimo, who was a renegade medicine man, not a chief, is said to have always bathed in area springs when he passed through. One story says that this is the second largest geothermal area in the world next to Iceland.

Many of the springs have changed hands, names, or the street numbers have been changed, so be patient using available guidebooks. The hot water we liked best and by far the most friendly was the Artesian Bath House & RV Park, 312 Marr St, T or C, 87901, 505-894-2684. It's the only one drawing its 107 degree H2O from wells, one drilled in June, 1930 to a 211 foot depth, and one 176 feet deep, drilled in November, 1962. Quite literally, everything from A (aluminum) to Z (zinc) shows up in the water per an analysis done by Los Alamos National Laboratory from samples taken May 31, 1987. It even has silver and gold in it!

The Artesian Bath-House is run by a sweet, matronly lady who just bubbles over with genuine warm friendliness, possibly explaining why her little RV park is sold out for each Winter before the previous Summer is over. The bath house consists of six single tub and six double tub rooms available at low hourly rates, as are after tub massages, by appointment. The doubles are HUGE; at least six people could be in one with no problem. Each tub is filled by a SIX inch pipe in what seems like about 45 seconds! When full, the tubs can be cooled by adding cold tap water or warmed by adding more hot mineral water, compliments of Mom Nature. NEAT!

We felt so relaxed at Artesian Bath-House, we completely forgot to ask the sweet lady's name; sorry about that. When we asked her if anyone ever wore clothing in the tubs, she replied, "Of course not! You don't wear anything when you go in the tub at home, do you?" Case closed.

The other establishment we suggest is Indian Springs, 218 Austin St, 505-894-2018, also `older' and well used. It's directly across the street from Ye Olde Bath House, reputed to be best hot spring in town, but closed the day we were there. Indian Spring has one 10 x 10 foot sunken pool with a VERY high flow through rate of 105 degree water in a small building which a party of any size may use for $2.50 per person per half hour. Not as friendly as Artesian.

We won't rate either of the above places; that will be up to you. If we rated only the water, both would receive high ratings. The friendliness of the nice lady at Artesian Bath-House is hard to beat. As Jayson Loam's long time companion, Marje Young said "If you can't be at the pool you love, love the pool you're at." A-men. Marje is now carrying on Jayson's tradition by publishing Hot Springs guides; we're proud to say we're contributors.

TECHNICAL NOTE: An silly rumor being circulated by a VERY few irresponsible public servants is that some hot wells and springs contain arsenic, with thinly veiled hints that being in them is dangerous; in other words, we're paying them to lie to us. Well, of course the water has arsenic in it; like many other common elements, arsenic is virtually everywhere, in trace elements; The Artesian Bath House wells put out .05 parts per million of arsenic. Bathe and drink freely; we promise you arsenic is safe at that level of concentration.

In Hot Water,
Camilla & Bill


Technical note from reader: Contrary to the last statement Bill and Camilla provided about bathing in and drinking arsenic-tainted hot springs, there is a wealth of information that directly contradicts their statement to go right on ahead and drink it with their meaningless "promise" of safety.

Here's the latest adopted ruling from the Federal Register.... and it's interesting and sad to note that the Bush EPA actually upped the permissible MCL (max contaminant level), over the considered recommendations provided by the entire scientific/medical research community. (BTW, these folks are not necessarily B & C's 'public servants'.)

Arsenic is officially recognized as a 'known' human carcinogen... not just a 'suspected' one. So, even the Bush EPA states their new 'watered-down' MCL limit to be 0.01 mg/L ( = 0.01 ppm) .... and yet Bill and Camilla are telling us to go right ahead and guzzle down hot spring water that contains 5 times that amount.

No thanks.... I'll pass! I would sit in it tho....

Here's the final word in the U.S. by the EPA:

(for comparison purposes: 1ppm is usually considered equal to 1mg/L)

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National Primary Drinking Water Regulations; Arsenic and Clarifications to Compliance and New Source Contaminants Monitoring

[Federal Register: January 22, 2001 (Volume 66, Number 14)]
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Environmental Protection Agency


40 CFR Parts 9, 141, and 142

National Primary Drinking Water Regulations; Arsenic and Clarifications to Compliance and New Source Contaminants Monitoring; Final Rule

[[Page 6976]]



40 CFR Parts 9, 141 and 142

RIN 2040-AB75

National Primary Drinking Water Regulations; Arsenic and Clarifications to Compliance and New Source Contaminants Monitoring

AGENCY: Environmental Protection Agency (EPA).

ACTION: Final rule.


SUMMARY: Today EPA is establishing a health-based, non-enforceable Maximum Contaminant Level Goal (MCLG) for arsenic of zero and an enforceable Maximum Contaminant Level (MCL) for arsenic of 0.01 mg/L (10 g/L). This regulation will apply to non-transient non-community water systems, which are not presently subject to standards on arsenic in drinking water, and to community water systems. In addition, EPA is publishing clarifications for monitoring and demonstration of compliance for new systems or sources of drinking water. The Agency is also clarifying compliance for State-determined monitoring after exceedances for inorganic, volatile organic, and synthetic organic contaminants. Finally, EPA is recognizing the State-specified time period and sampling frequency for new public water systems and systems using a new source of water to demonstrate compliance with drinking water regulations. The requirement for new systems and new source monitoring will be effective for inorganic, volatile organic, and synthetic organic contaminants.

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